SharePoint vs WebSphere: The Final Nail
So I went to Melbourne today with my boss, against all better judgement, to see a two-hour presentation and demo from the IBM guys of their WebSphere Workplace Services Express (WSE) product.
Basically WSE is an "intranet in a box" solution that provides document-management (including workflow, versioning etc), discussion forums, instant-messaging (including presence-awareness), contact lists via your LDAP server, you name it. It's a mature product with a large install-base, and it looks pretty slick. In fact, it does everything that we want in an intranet product.
The reasons I was (am) pro-SharePoint and anti-WSE are twofold:
- It's based on J2EE. This might not be a huge problem, since it's in essence a self-contained application ... but I dunno. What if we want to write our own 'portlets' for it? We'd basically be screwed. I suppose we could write an ASP.NET app to publish an RSS feed for the data we want and use a WSE portlet that can subscribe to that feed. That'd be a read-only solution, depending on the problem it's trying to solve. Anything would be a cludge - we have no skills in Java.
- It costs money. Windows SharePoint Services is free. Granted there are other facets to the SharePoint solution that cost money (SharePoint Portal Server, Live Communication Server etc), but the base-model is a free download and also happens to do everything we need.
So ... those reasons are still sound, but that's not why I'm posting this blog entry. This particular entry is all about the last slide that the guys posted up on the projector in their presentation. Let me describe it.
The slide was about WSE's "position in the market". It basically outlined that WSE's major competitor is SharePoint (no surprise) and had each product stacked up against each other.
On the left side of the slide were a series of boxes that made up a SharePoint installation - Windows Server 2003, SQL Server 2000, Windows SharePoint Services, Live Communication Server and SharePoint Portal Server. The slide also included costings for each product, and although I didn't do the actual calculation, it came in at somewhere around AU$10,000 per processor (ie, in our case, per site).
On the right side of the slide was a single box outlining WSE's feature set. Confusingly it didn't mention the operating system it runs on (I'm pretty sure it needs one! heh heh), so comparing costs might not be quite fair ... but as you'll soon see that's kind of academic. You see, this box also had a price next to it. A per-processor price.
AU$61,000.
Let me break it down for you. IBM and one of their partners, in their own promotional slide, just told us that their major competitor with all the same features is one sixth the price.
Gee ... this is such a hard decision!!!
ps. The most mind-boggling thing about the whole thing is that nobody, not even my boss, seemed to mind! They acted as if there was nothing out of the ordinary with that slide. I was too busy picking my jaw up off the floor to say something like, "Are you TOTALLY INSANE????"

Comments
# ew
18/05/2006 8:57 PM
Can you send me the slide ?
# mabster
18/05/2006 9:23 PM
Sorry mate - it wasn't a slide that was given to us. This was a presentation they gave to us at their offices.
# fanfaron
2/06/2006 12:33 PM
Hi pal,
I didn't know Ibm's solution is so expensive compared to Microsoft one, thanks for saying it.
In the world of J2EE, so much is free, besides expertise, but even that lot's of community are willing to give you a hand. What I'm trying to say is If you freak out about the cost from major vendors, maybe you should embrasse the world of Java, or Php or ruby, anything beside big Vendor. It's maybe really time for you to have a look what's beyond...
# dave.dolan
18/01/2007 4:09 AM
Sharepoint is not easily centrally managed. It can grow out of control quickly. Restoring a sharepoint instance can be a nightmare in a disaster recovery solution, and unless you fork out big bucks for a specialized backup solution, you can forget being able to 'point resotre' something. You MUST have 6 times the used storage space available ... which means if your sharepoint host has 100GB of data in the store, then you have to have at least 600GB of disk space... Version control is awful, you can't keep old versions if you move a document somewhere else... They don't move with it. If someone is designated as an 'owner' of a site collection, and then they get 'demoted' from the role, their rights are stick unless you hack them out or buy a tool to do it. And the list goes on. Share point is GREAT for the users, but it's a nightmare if anything ever goes wrong for the administrators. And don't think that just because they say it does versioning that it really does... I wouldn't call what sharepoint does really 'versioning' at all. So you still need other ($$) software for that. Also, if you do use sharepoint... watch out when it comes time to upgrade... Make sure you handle that config database with kid gloves... etc... Sharepoint 2007 doesn't even have ANY antivirus integration yet... I can't believe that some people are exposing that to the internet. You're crazy.
# dave.dolan
18/01/2007 4:19 AM
Just to be clear, I meant the people who put sharepoint 2007 on the internet are crazy, not you mabster. You seem to be a right knowledgeable chap :)
# mabster
18/01/2007 6:51 AM
Thanks for the comments, Dave. I guess we'll find this out first-hand this year when we roll out SP (although it'll only be to our intranet, not the Internet).
Oh, and consider me subscribed to your blog. ;)
# Liz.Sanchez
8/06/2008 10:06 AM
I found this interesting link about Websohere Portal Server against MOSS (Microsoft Office Sharepoint Server): www.greyduck.com/.../WSPortalVsSP$File/WSPortal6.pdf
In summary, Websphere PS has compatibility with many platforms, databases and Web servers than the Microsoft Portal Server solution.
Additionally, Websphere PS fits better and it is more secure for an extranet/intranet solution than MOSS.
# FG
10/12/2008 11:43 AM
I think you are referring to this slide.
Page 18/24
www.slideshare.net/.../lotus-collabora
# mabster
10/12/2008 11:48 AM
Very similar, FG. Keep in mind that the slide you're pointing to is focused on the 2007 line of products which weren't around when I made this post in 2005.
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